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Re: which is the better caliber for most game in N.america Jackson_Handy#1946547405/19/24 | |
southtexas Campfire Tracker | |
 southtexas Campfire Tracker Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,857 Likes: 3 | Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy Originally Posted by bluefish And then the 6.5 Screed walked into the room. Tell us all about it, handjob. I'm just here to remind memtb how fùcking dumb he is, but then again he does that every time he posts..lol (Ps the 6 creed is better...boomer) Just to clarify: Are you saying that the 6CM is a better cartridge for "most game in N.America" than the 300WM or 7RM? |
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Re: which is the better caliber for most game in N.america southtexas#1946569605/19/24 | |
J Jackson_Handy Campfire Outfitter | |
 Jackson_Handy Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Apr 2018 Posts: 8,838 Likes: 15 | Originally Posted by southtexas Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy Originally Posted by bluefish And then the 6.5 Screed walked into the room. Tell us all about it, handjob. I'm just here to remind memtb how fùcking dumb he is, but then again he does that every time he posts..lol (Ps the 6 creed is better...boomer) Just to clarify: Are you saying that the 6CM is a better cartridge for "most game in N.America" than the 300WM or 7RM? I can clarity for the slow and Inept..... Dumbaşs bluefish referenced the 6.5 "screed" (because being an old dummy, he hates the efficient 6.5 creed and associates it with young whippersnappers). I responded "ps the 6 creed is better"....in response to bluefish. Conprende? And yes for most people the 6 creed would be better than any magnum because they A. Have no business shooting past the 6 creeds effective range (800ish yards) and B. Most people don't shoot magnums enough to become proficient with them because of cost and recoil but they are too macho to admit it, even to themselves. Now throw a hissy-fit Last edited by Jackson_Handy; 05/19/24. |
Re: which is the better caliber for most game in N.america savage2400#1946570305/19/24 | |
B bluefish Campfire Tracker | |
bluefish Campfire Tracker B Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 4,782 Likes: 17 | Inside 200 yards where most game is shot by most hunters what does the 6 or 6.5 Screed offer over say the 6.5 Swede? Answer: nothing. Therefore it is an answer in search of a question. The way life should be. |
Re: which is the better caliber for most game in N.america bluefish#1946570605/19/24 | |
J Jackson_Handy Campfire Outfitter | |
Jackson_Handy Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Apr 2018 Posts: 8,838 Likes: 15 | Originally Posted by bluefish Inside 200 yards where most game is shot by most hunters what does the 6 or 6.5 Screed offer over say the 6.5 Swede? Answer: nothing. Therefore it is an answer in search of a question. So you're bìtching about nothing? Ok. |
Re: which is the better caliber for most game in N.america Jackson_Handy#1946571105/19/24 | |
southtexas Campfire Tracker | |
southtexas Campfire Tracker Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,857 Likes: 3 | Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy Originally Posted by southtexas Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy Originally Posted by bluefish And then the 6.5 Screed walked into the room. Tell us all about it, handjob. I'm just here to remind memtb how fùcking dumb he is, but then again he does that every time he posts..lol (Ps the 6 creed is better...boomer) Just to clarify: Are you saying that the 6CM is a better cartridge for "most game in N.America" than the 300WM or 7RM? I can clarity for the slow and Inept..... Dumbaşs bluefish referenced the 6.5 "screed" (because being an old dummy, he hates the efficient 6.5 creed and associates it with young whippersnappers). I responded "ps the 6 creed is better"....in response to bluefish. Conprende? And yes for most people the 6 creed would be better than any magnum because they A. Have no business shooting past the 6 creeds effective range (800ish yards) and B. Most people don't shoot magnums enough to become proficient with them because of cost and recoil but they are too macho to admit it, even to themselves. Now throw a hissy-fit Thanks for the elucidation. I understand your position. Don’t understand the need for all the insults, but whatever… |
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Re: which is the better caliber for most game in N.america savage2400#1946585505/20/24 | |
M mainer_in_ak Campfire Regular | |
 mainer_in_ak Campfire Regular M Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,635 Likes: 13 | Round 2: From the thickest deer woods, to open country caribou, to moose n bear, here's how cleanly the 308 win gets s hit done: Lets not forget about Luke's wife. Single 180 grain fusion from a 20 barrel 308 winchester carbine: Last edited by mainer_in_ak; 05/20/24. |
Re: which is the better caliber for most game in N.america savage2400#1946600605/20/24 | |
J Jackson_Handy Campfire Outfitter | |
Jackson_Handy Campfire Outfitter J Joined: Apr 2018 Posts: 8,838 Likes: 15 | So you can tell the difference between a 308win wound channel and a 6.5 creedmoor? Impressive. Point being you can't. There might be single digit percentage points difference in size of the wound channel and the smaller frontal diameter bullet usually out penetrates the larger frontal diameter bullet. Last edited by Jackson_Handy; 05/20/24. |
Re: which is the better caliber for most game in N.america KenMi#1946602405/20/24 | |
Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter | |
Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,580 Likes: 8 | Originally Posted by KenMi For someone that doesn't hunt, a queed is perfect. Hint To the contrary, those that actually hunt quickly find that the 6.5 Creedmoor works just fine on all manner of game, from mice to moose, with intelligent bullet selection and placement. |
Re: which is the better caliber for most game in N.america hh4whiskey#1946602905/20/24 | |
Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter | |
Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,580 Likes: 8 | Originally Posted by hh4whiskey I’ve got lots of stuff that would fill this void, but inside 400, there’s nothing a creedmoor does better than a 308 (or 7-08) on game…..except maybe kick less. Even inside 400 yards, wind drift matters, and since we’re talking about advantages, no matter how minor, that’s something that the 6.5 Creedmoor does better than the .308. |
Re: which is the better caliber for most game in N.america hh4whiskey#1946603905/20/24 | |
DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna | |
DigitalDan Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2004 Posts: 56,248 Likes: 33 | Originally Posted by hh4whiskey Originally Posted by DigitalDan "most" is a curious baseline. Squill and bunnies outnumber the rest, and if you add a long list of other critters of similar size, or even up to Hog size, well, there be a gazillion of them, so the .22 short is purrfect. Most night time varmint chasing is not ‘hunting’ in my mind. There’s a term for it that is probably best not to type out loud, translates: butt-butt-kills. I don't hunt at night.
I am..........disturbed. Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain |
Maybe that’s splitting hairs over semantics, but I shoot a LOT of stuff at night with far ‘less’ gun than most would deem prudent. 22subs, mainly…..then again, I’m often getting very close and being very shot selective. 
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Re: which is the better caliber for most game in N.america KenMi#1946604105/20/24 | |
Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter | |
Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,580 Likes: 8 | Originally Posted by KenMi Originally Posted by pathfinder76 Originally Posted by KenMi 7mm mag is not a specific cartridge. So, that opens the doors for several choices. 300 Win. Mag. is specific. 280 AI can pretty much match a 7mm Rem Mag with handloads. "most game" doesn't say "all game". So, that can leave out small game varmints, and even moose/brown bear That being said, I'd pick the 7mm cartridge for versatility. Predators, deer, antelope, elk The 280AI can in no way match the 7MM RM. it’s not happening. My actual velocities (average of 8 shots) 280 AI, 26" barrel Barnes lists the 139 LRX factory load in 7mm mag. as 3210 fps Your load has significantly higher pressure than the corresponding load in the 7RM. |
Re: which is the better caliber for most game in N.america mainer_in_ak#1946605105/20/24 | |
Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter | |
Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,580 Likes: 8 | Originally Posted by mainer_in_ak Round 2: To be clear, are you blaming that result on the chambering? I’ve seen the 6.5 Creedmoor pole-axe bull moose, but of course, as with most positive terminal performance outcomes, bullet choice and placement were appropriately excellent. |
Re: which is the better caliber for most game in N.america savage2400#1946605405/20/24 | |
Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter | |
Jordan Smith Campfire Outfitter Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 14,580 Likes: 8 | To answer the OP, my preference is for the 7RM or 7WSM as an all-arounder, though both the 7 Mags and .300 Mags obviously work. |
Re: which is the better caliber for most game in N.america Jordan Smith#1946609205/20/24 | |
H hh4whiskey Campfire Tracker | |
hh4whiskey Campfire Tracker H Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 3,672 Likes: 2 | Originally Posted by Jordan Smith Originally Posted by hh4whiskey I’ve got lots of stuff that would fill this void, but inside 400, there’s nothing a creedmoor does better than a 308 (or 7-08) on game…..except maybe kick less. Even inside 400 yards, wind drift matters, and since we’re talking about advantages, no matter how minor, that’s something that the 6.5 Creedmoor does better than the .308. Mental Gymnastics: Arguing that differences matter, precisely when they won’t matter. Inside 400 yards, there’s not enough difference in drop OR WIND DRIFT between just about ANY diameter round pushed down range with a .473 case head to matter/induce a miss on game…..unless you’re hunting in 30-40mph gales, and then only beyond 300. I own them both….FOR HUNTING: The 6.5s recoil less when the suppressor is off, than the 308s do. The end. |
Re: which is the better caliber for most game in N.america savage2400#1946609405/20/24 | |
C colodog Campfire Tracker | |
colodog Campfire Tracker C Joined: Sep 2008 Posts: 5,758 Likes: 1 | Whichever rifle I have more components for is the best one. I've owned more rifles in 300WSM (4) than 300win mag(2) or 7mm Rem mag(2) but they all worked well. I don't live in elk country now so my magnums are gone. My buddy's magnum rifles get loaded down to 308 or 7-08 speeds but they get to carry their favorite rifles. Pick a rifle you love, get plenty of components and learn that rifle. "Camping places fix themselves in your mind as if you had spent long periods of your life in them. |
Re: which is the better caliber for most game in N.america savage2400#1946634705/20/24 | |
H hh4whiskey Campfire Tracker | |
hh4whiskey Campfire Tracker H Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 3,672 Likes: 2 | ^^^ If I like a rifle, I’ll find a bullet and a powder combo that’ll accomplish the desired. If I don’t like the rifle, nothing much else gets explored. |
Re: which is the better caliber for most game in N.america Jackson_Handy#1946642105/20/24 | |
R rickt300 Campfire Outfitter | |
rickt300 Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 13,522 Likes: 4 | Originally Posted by Jackson_Handy So you can tell the difference between a 308win wound channel and a 6.5 creedmoor? Impressive. Point being you can't. There might be single digit percentage points difference in size of the wound channel and the smaller frontal diameter bullet usually out penetrates the larger frontal diameter bullet. so you can't? No skills? Smaller frontal diameter may out penetrate larger diameter bullets with FMJ's but mass has a hand in penetration. Heavier well constructed bullets have a tendency to break bone better. Dog I rescued in January
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Re: which is the better caliber for most game in N.america KenMi#1946644805/20/24 | |
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,916 Likes: 13 M mathman Campfire 'Bwana | |
mathman Campfire 'Bwana M Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 44,916 Likes: 13 | Originally Posted by KenMi Originally Posted by pathfinder76 Originally Posted by KenMi 7mm mag is not a specific cartridge. So, that opens the doors for several choices. 300 Win. Mag. is specific. 280 AI can pretty much match a 7mm Rem Mag with handloads. "most game" doesn't say "all game". So, that can leave out small game varmints, and even moose/brown bear That being said, I'd pick the 7mm cartridge for versatility. Predators, deer, antelope, elk The 280AI can in no way match the 7MM RM. it’s not happening. My actual velocities (average of 8 shots) 280 AI, 26" barrel Barnes lists the 139 LRX factory load in 7mm mag. as 3210 fps What are your actual pressures? |
Re: which is the better caliber for most game in N.america savage2400#1946645005/20/24 | |
T Texasteach Campfire Greenhorn | |
Texasteach Campfire Greenhorn T Joined: May 2024 Posts: 88 Likes: 3 | I have taken way more game with the .300 Win and it remains my favorite cartridge. |
Re: which is the better caliber for most game in N.america savage2400#1946649605/20/24 | |
257Bob Campfire Tracker | |
257Bob Campfire Tracker Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,870 Likes: 2 | Limited to one "caliber" choice, it would begin with .308" - 308 Win, 30-06 or 300 WM. |
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